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Meeting 2.3.3b - Basic Streaming (continued)

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Academy Meeting 2.3.3b
Basic Streaming Part 2
November 4, 2007

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12:56:03  Dennis-Phoenix ->  OK. I'm watching the streaming chart.
12:56:42  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hey, Derrall!
12:56:48  derrallg ->  Hi Dennis
12:56:58  Dennis-Phoenix ->  How's by you?
12:57:04  derrallg ->  Busy
12:57:09  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I bet!
12:57:13  JoseR ->  now streaming
12:57:24  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Terrific! Where?
12:57:30  derrallg ->  I tried
12:57:37  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hi, Cheryl.
12:58:01  JasonR ->  Sorry, was in another space. Never heard from Diane.
12:58:03  cheryloakes webcaster ->  Hello Dennis-Phoenix, glad you are here!
12:58:21  derrallg ->  Hi Cheryloakes
12:58:31  cheryloakes webcaster ->  me too Jeff, I sometimes wish I didn't have intro and outro music
12:58:45  cheryloakes webcaster ->  Hi Derral, nice job helping this AM
12:58:46  derrallg ->  Hi Pam
12:58:51  derrallg ->  thanks
12:58:51  Pam Shoemaker ->  H
12:58:58  Pam Shoemaker ->  Hi
12:59:00  cheryloakes webcaster ->  Hi Pam,,Kathy S are you here in the academy?
12:59:15  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I can hear just fine.
12:59:23  cheryloakes webcaster ->  Hi JoseR and Jeff
12:59:29  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hi, Jeff and José.
13:00:09  JoseR ->  Hi there!
13:00:19  Dennis-Phoenix ->  :D
13:00:50  cheryloakes webcaster ->  No failures allowed, I am still practicing, have not graduated yet either. Yeah KathyS
13:01:01  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yay, indeed!
13:01:12  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Nagging is fine by me.
13:01:25  JoseR ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/node/961
13:01:54  JL ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/audio_specifications
13:01:55  derrallg ->  Which time site is easiest?
13:02:06  JasonR ->  http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/
13:02:11  JL ->  http://timeanddate.com
13:02:14  derrallg ->  thanks Jason
13:02:36  JL ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/node/940
13:02:36  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yes, thanks, Jason.
13:02:45  Dennis-Phoenix ->  And thanks to you, too, Jeff.
13:02:47  derrallg ->  I liked the K12Online method
13:03:54  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I had a good tutorial/review session with Lee Baber today.
13:04:17  JL ->  http://www.worldtimeserver.com
13:04:45  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Thanks for yet another good link, Jeff.
13:05:00  JL ->  skype 'worldbridges' to join in
13:05:10  JoseR ->  Ok folks join us.
13:05:17  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Skype now or later?
13:06:20  JoseR ->  now dennis
13:07:20  Dennis-Phoenix ->  OK. I'm on Skype, obviously, because I just spoke to JL.
13:08:17  JoseR ->  Thanks dennis
13:08:28  Dennis-Phoenix ->  El gusto es mío.
13:10:33  Dennis-Phoenix ->  "It has to stay fun and enjoyable and gratifying": Absolutely!
13:11:05  JoseR ->  Hi James
13:11:22  Eurominuteman ->  hi jose
13:12:32  Dennis-Phoenix ->  José: And I'm involved with Carla Arena and Illya Arnet-Clark and several others with "FoodBridges."
13:12:53  JoseR ->  Looking forward to Foodbridges program
13:13:30  Eurominuteman ->  true
13:13:39  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Thanks. I'm not sure when the next one will be, but it will probably be on cooking for the holidays.
13:14:49  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Great goal, José and Jeff: putting together a lot of things and integrating them into a network.
13:15:21  susanvg ->  It should always be about the content
13:15:44  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I agree, Susan--content and community building.
13:16:09  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Pam Shoemaker is calling.
13:16:16  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hi, Diane!
13:16:50  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Kudos, LisaP!
13:17:01  Dennis-Phoenix ->  <clap, clap, calp>
13:17:02  susanvg ->  Yeah Lisa
13:17:10  cheryloakes webcaster ->  thanks derral for your words.
13:17:13  Dennis-Phoenix ->  <clap clap clap clap clap>
13:17:22  readerdiane ->  You can't believe the hoops I have jumped thru to get on right now. My Internet went down so I came to school.
13:17:27  JoseR ->  We are looking at how everybody is doing with week 2 and week 3 assignments.  Come in and join us.
13:17:36  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Oy, Diane!
13:17:46  Dennis-Phoenix ->  But the important thing is that you got here, no?
13:18:01  Pam Shoemaker ->  Congrats, Lisa.  I wanted to stay for it, but couldn't...  I wanted learn what a gradcast was!
13:18:06  readerdiane ->  Can someone invite me to the Skype chat since I have left that. Yeah-stubborness.
13:18:13  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hey, my hero Pam!
13:18:21  Pam Shoemaker ->  Hi Dennis!
13:18:32  Dennis-Phoenix ->  How's by you, Pam?
13:18:39  Pam Shoemaker ->  All's great.
13:18:46  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Terrific!
13:18:54  Dennis-Phoenix ->  It's nice to hear your voice, Jason.
13:19:09  JasonR ->  Greetings
13:19:14  JoseR ->  Hi Diane How is it going?
13:19:16  Dennis-Phoenix ->  :D
13:19:45  JoseR ->  Diane, are you ready for streaming?
13:20:03  susanvg ->  can't be there - would like remedial ustream another time
13:20:36  readerdiane ->  I have not had any luck with a PC so I am going to try to use an old mac I have here at school.
13:21:02  cheryloakes webcaster ->  have fun! gotta go do chores
13:21:08  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Be sure you go through Derrall's and Lee Baber's tutorials, Diane. Both are on the W.A. website.
13:21:17  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Cheryl: Take good care, hear?
13:21:22  JoseR ->  @diane let's talk about your pc set up before you try mac
13:21:26  cheryloakes webcaster ->  you got it I'll stop back
13:21:33  Dennis-Phoenix ->  :D
13:22:11  susanvg ->  could you put it in the chat too
13:22:19  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Will do, José.
13:22:57  readerdiane ->  @JoseR I did get stereo mix finally on my Dell and I have looked at everyone's tutorial and tried all the settings. No luck.
13:23:58  JoseR ->  Oh yeah the Dell issue.
13:24:00  Pam Shoemaker ->  Diane, I also had some trouble finding Stereo Mix in Audacity.
13:25:28  readerdiane ->  Are we using the Skype chat also?
13:25:39  JoseR ->  nope just here.
13:25:42  JasonR ->  going back to listen only mode.
13:25:47  JL ->  feel free to skype 'worldbridges' to join
13:26:43  susanvg ->  Yeah Lisa
13:26:45  JasonR ->  congrats
13:27:22  JasonR ->  Never had much luck with Audactiy+Mac
13:27:49  derrallg ->  @JasonR what do you use for editing?
13:27:54  susanvg ->  How are you recording? with your Mac
13:27:57  JasonR ->  garageband
13:28:09  derrallg ->  that's what I want to use
13:28:29  derrallg ->  do you know of a tutorial?
13:28:30  JoseR ->  With Audacity 1.3.3 and mac,  I record using my internal mic
13:28:34  susanvg ->  I just use the Nicecast archive and then edit it in either Audacity or Garageband
13:28:48  derrallg ->  internal mike works for me only
13:28:58  susanvg ->  Use a headset
13:29:02  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Good suggestions, Susan and Derrall and Jason.
13:29:10  JasonR ->  http://www.rogueamoeba.com/fission/index.php
13:29:18  JoseR ->  derall; It seems that the archive is best from Nicecast and not audacity.  Audacity for post production.
13:29:20  derrallg ->  thanks
13:29:22  JasonR ->  Another Mac solution for audio editing
13:29:23  susanvg ->  I find the internal mic picks up echo of other person
13:29:54  Dennis-Phoenix ->  It often does, Susan.
13:30:09  JasonR ->  I have a Blue Snowball USB mic
13:30:20  JasonR ->  Internal mic not the best solution
13:30:23  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I've had good success with a headset mic.
13:30:32  JoseR ->  @susanvg internal mic and earbuds works well
13:30:48  susanvg ->  Just used to headset now
13:30:49  Dennis-Phoenix ->  But for webcasting, a desktop USB is better, I understand.
13:31:04  susanvg ->  I find the internal mic picks up fan noise
13:31:16  susanvg ->  I have a logitech with mac
13:31:21  Dennis-Phoenix ->  The AK5370?
13:31:25  JoseR ->  yes
13:31:27  susanvg ->  I'm in Tiger
13:31:44  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I'm glad to hear that, Jeff.
13:31:50  JasonR ->  Sorry, hung up. Vacuum + webcast not so good. Standy.
13:32:01  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yes, and that can be a challenge, Jeff.
13:32:10 [Action] JasonR ->  in Leopard
13:32:33  susanvg ->  I don't have split inputs, but it works well with my mac
13:32:41  readerdiane ->  I tried a headset with split inputs but didn't have a USB plug-in.My logi-tech sounds mush better
13:33:11  Dennis-Phoenix ->  With Lee this morning, we set up a streamed webcast with the AK5370 as input and the headset as output. It seemed to work OK.
13:33:44  Dennis-Phoenix ->  It was a little bit hard to listen, though, because the timbre was kind of hollow. There was no echo, though.
13:34:31  susanvg ->  You do get a bit of an echo on the headset - which is a bit disconcerting but you get used to it. It doesn't record the echo
13:34:49  susanvg ->  I've used Audacity - but I do like Garageband better
13:36:40  JoseR ->  As a windows user there isn't a cool program caparable to Garage Band that comes with operating system :-(
13:36:47  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Susan: I've been using Audacity for quite some time, but mostly for recording and editing short audio clips to be used in classroom / professional development settings. REAL editing in Audacity is something new for me.
13:37:07  susanvg ->  I did my introduction with Audacity
13:37:23  JoseR ->  Sooo Audacity is a cool Open Source Solution.  But as a mac user, hey go with what you have. 
13:37:50  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I'm very persistent, so I don't actually mind going through lots and lots of intermediate steps to get where I finally want to be, but it's very time-consuming.
13:38:36  readerdiane ->  For podcasting you can't beat Garage Band and I am not a good Mac user.
13:38:46  susanvg ->  Love Garageband!
13:39:12  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yes, Garageband rocks—but it's not really intuitive. There's still a learning curve.
13:40:15  readerdiane ->  I can't believe how quick my 7th graders picked it up. We had used quite a bit of technology prior to that but I did not have to do much extra teaching.
13:40:23  derrallg ->  I love Garageband too!
13:40:42  Pam Shoemaker ->  I didn't notice an echo.
13:41:13  JoseR ->  there is a 100th of a second latency
13:42:07  readerdiane ->  @Jeff do you want to try Yugma after the class is over? I am at school so I have a lot more bandwidth.
13:42:30  JL ->  will get it going now
13:43:29  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Oy! Yugma Skype sounds like a real Black Widow!
13:43:36  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Potentially, anyway.
13:43:59  JoseR ->  oh no the Blue Screen of Death!
13:44:06  JL ->  http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=130832090
13:44:10  Dennis-Phoenix ->  ¡Ay!
13:44:21  JL ->  http://www.yugma.com/Viewer/viewersignup.php?SessionID=130832090
13:44:35  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Great links, José.
13:46:16  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I need to be AFL for about five minutes. I'm not signing off, though. I'll be back soon.
13:47:23  JoseR ->  Hello I lost call
13:47:53  JoseR ->  Hey welcome to the party!
13:48:34  JoseR ->  Let's regroup,  so what happened?
13:49:42  JL ->  http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=130832090
13:49:46  JL ->  http://www.yugma.com/Viewer/viewersignup.php?SessionID=130832090
13:52:38  susanvg ->  that would be great
13:52:57  Pam Shoemaker ->  Please tell us the date/time again.
13:53:16  susanvg ->  ai could try to be available
13:53:37  Dennis-Phoenix ->  That sounds like a great idea.
13:53:57  Dennis-Phoenix ->  No. 14–16.
13:54:09  susanvg ->  How about opening up sites so students can actually learn
13:54:47  JasonR ->  Did you have link to that preso Jeff?
13:54:52  JasonR ->  The conference site.
13:54:55  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Susan: Teresa Almeida d'Eça in Portugal has done some interesting things with middle school children.
13:55:18  susanvg ->  do yo have a link?
13:55:22  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yes, I'd like the link again, too.
13:55:32  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Susan: For Teresa?
13:55:39  susanvg ->  yes - for teresa
13:55:47  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yes. Just a minute.
13:55:48  readerdiane ->  since I work with middle school I'd like to see that also
13:56:16  JoseR ->  Diane can you show us your audio settings
13:56:46  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Susan: Start here:
13:56:54  Dennis-Phoenix ->   http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=130832090  [Dennis-Phoenix] ¡Ay! [JL] http://www.yugma.com/Viewer/viewersignup.php?SessionID=130832090
13:57:17  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Oops!
13:57:35  JoseR ->  ok diane I was able to see the first part, oh well :-(
13:57:49  Dennis-Phoenix ->  http://fwe2.motime.com/
13:58:18  JoseR ->  I did notice your are using your usb headset for both playback and recording, is this right?
13:58:56  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I can give you other links for Teresa later. Send e-mail: dennis dot oliver at cox net. (Put this in the appropriate format, with . and @ .)
13:59:06  JoseR ->  the idea in streaming is to separate these two and stream sound from your soundcard
13:59:31  susanvg ->  Can you put the link for Teresa on the webcast skype chat?
13:59:33  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Susan: The fwe2 link is correct.
13:59:36  JoseR ->  The audio repeater bridges the sound from your mic side to the soundcard.
14:00:04  susanvg ->  Thanks Dennis
14:00:23  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Done!
14:00:35  Dennis-Phoenix ->  And it's my pleasure. :D
14:00:43  JoseR ->  We usually check if it is working through audacity.  But if audacity isn't working it doesn't mean you are not able to stream.
14:01:08  JoseR ->  Thanks Dennis. Looking forward to your stream recording
14:01:13  JL ->  http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=130832090
14:01:46  Dennis-Phoenix ->  What stream recording, José?
14:02:03  JoseR ->  Your recording coming soon :-)
14:02:14  JoseR ->  recording + streaming
14:02:29  Dennis-Phoenix ->  ¡Claro! Entiendo perfectamente.
14:02:55  Dennis-Phoenix ->  When and where will that be, José?
14:03:50  JoseR ->  Anytime you are ready. 
14:04:04  JoseR ->  I'll be available,  Look for me in skypechat
14:04:14  Dennis-Phoenix ->  What I finally did for my messy desktop (not in Leopard) was to make a desktop megafolder. It's a very low-tech solution, but it works for me.
14:04:29  Dennis-Phoenix ->  OK. Thanks, José.
14:05:00  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hi, Drew.
14:05:23  susanvg ->  Have to go - thanks all.
14:05:41  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Susan: Take care! Do visit Teresa's site, OK?
14:07:24  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Drew: Are you listening to the audio?
14:07:37  JoseR ->  Ok Jason the Pather King.
14:07:42  JoseR ->  Panther
14:09:22  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hey, MM.
14:09:32  readerdiane ->  So-o-o Dennis can I record you on a telephony call after our class is over?
14:09:49  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yes, if you'll give me a few minutes to take a break.
14:09:55  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I'd be honored.
14:10:14  readerdiane ->  How about 10 minutes after the Skype call is ended?
14:10:23  Dennis-Phoenix ->  That'll be good.
14:10:36  derrallg ->  I have to go, bye everyone
14:10:46  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Derrall, take care, hear?
14:10:47  Pam Shoemaker ->  Bye Derrall
14:11:41  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Jeff: What an interesting statement!
14:12:00  Dennis-Phoenix ->  But it's better to know how something works and what works than just theory, I think.
14:13:07  Pam Shoemaker ->  I need to run.  Goodbye all.
14:13:18  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Bye, my hero!
14:15:02  JasonR ->  Thanks
14:16:01  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Diane: I'll be back in Skype in 10 minutes. OK?
14:16:06  readerdiane ->  Ok Dennis in about 10 minutes I will try to record you on Skype. See you then
14:16:24  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Great!
14:16:28  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Bye, all!

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Webcasting Journey Continues

Thanks all for making it a very productive session.  Looking forward to more success and challenges along the way.  :-)

 

Jose Rodriguez, Co-Facilitator Webcast Academy Session 2.3; It's Elementary Webcast



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